Topic: Questions on AR10 (Read 1185 times)

eagle10 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2012, 04:45:28 PM »

Retired, ya know I didn't even think about the buffer in cold weather, but you have an excellent point, any fluid is thicker in cold weather. I was just looking at something to help reduce recoil, guess I will pass on the "Enidine" piece, especially at $100.00, wearing out quick and being sluggish in cold weather, will post pics soon, God Bless all, thanks.

eagle10 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2012, 07:29:50 PM »

Ok, I have a new question. I ordered and received a Geissele SSA trigger from Brownell's, has anyone on here ever used one? Then, I done a little more research I developed my second question, I found that they sell a Geissele SSA-E, can this one be used in my AR10, I assume that Aramlite uses the small .154 dia trigger pins and has anyone used this one, key differences, thanks for any help.

98Z5V · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2012, 09:13:02 PM »

Overall, the SSA-E is about a pound lighter in trigger pull than the SSA. Have both. After using both for quite awhile, you can tell the difference in the SSA-E over the SSA. Either one will do the job, though.

Retired JM · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2012, 02:20:09 AM »

Quote from: eagle10 on January 28, 2012, 04:45:28 PM

Retired, ya know I didn't even think about the buffer in cold weather, but you have an excellent point, any fluid is thicker in cold weather. I was just looking at something to help reduce recoil, guess I will pass on the "Enidine" piece, especially at $100.00, wearing out quick and being sluggish in cold weather, will post pics soon, God Bless all, thanks.

I don't find the recoil of a .308 AR to be that punishing, especially after "growing up" with bolt guns and the M14/M21/M1A. I'd recommend running the OEM buffer for a little while to get your own feel for the recoil. If it's a bit stout for you, simply use a heavier buffer and stiffer buffer spring vice the hydraulic buffer.

edgecrusher · « **Reply #19 on:** February 03, 2012, 03:45:23 AM »

Quote from: Retired JM on February 03, 2012, 02:20:09 AM

I don't find the recoil of a .308 AR to be that punishing, especially after "growing up" with bolt guns and the M14/M21/M1A. I'd recommend running the OEM buffer for a little while to get your own feel for the recoil. If it's a bit stout for you, simply use a heavier buffer and stiffer buffer spring vice the hydraulic buffer.

there's always the carrier weight system too. i just got one and installed it in my pws mk214, and other than being much better on the brass it also dimmed recoil to 5.56 levels

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=12720/Product/AR-15-CARRIER-WEIGHT-SYSTEM

Dusty44 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 03, 2012, 09:55:39 PM »

The first thing I did was put a Limbsaver butt pad on my DPMS factory rifle. The pad needed a few mods, but that was easy. Limbsaver has 4 standard shapes; one of them is within a milimeter or two around the sides and 2 - 3 MM long at one end. Almost a perfect fit. No felt recoil at all. Wearing a T-shirt.

eagle10 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 03, 2012, 11:25:36 PM »

Thanks for all the info, enclosed is a pic of the lower I am starting with. I sent back the Geissele SSA and ordered the SSA-E instead.

eagle10 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2012, 05:17:44 PM »

What about the Noveske N6 upper, vs the Armalite SST upper, lots of money between the two, is there really that big of a difference? I am trying to build a very accurate rifle, give me your thoughts folks.

Retired JM · « **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2012, 04:49:16 AM »

Quote from: eagle10 on February 07, 2012, 05:17:44 PM

What about the Noveske N6 upper, vs the Armalite SST upper, lots of money between the two, is there really that big of a difference? I am trying to build a very accurate rifle, give me your thoughts folks.

The Devil's in the details. Being a much smaller shop, Noveske doesn't produce as many rifles/uppers as a large company like Armalite. While it means that Noveske's are more expensive, it also means that more time was taken in building the rifle; I've never heard of anyone complaining about an out-of-spec Novske.

I've used Noveske's in the past, and found them to be brilliantly built. As far as barrels go, Noveske uses a proprietary button to rifle their barrels which gives the lands a slightly different shape. Noveske says this shape increases the longevity and accuracy of their barrels. They also change out their buttons more frequently than most barrel makers, to ensure sharp, consistant grooving.

Noveske also uses a different chamber spec, from what I've read it's between a standard chamber and a true match chamber.

IMO, the Armalite SS barrel is very good, but the Noveske is better.

Robocop1051 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2012, 05:26:23 AM »

I thought Noveske used polygonal barrels?

eagle10 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 08, 2012, 05:56:14 AM »

Retired, thanks for responding, well I guess I will go with the Noveske upper then, sounds like their quality control is really good and that they care about making a quality product. In the end there is only $673.00 difference in the two, it is a lot of money, but I want accuracy, again thanks for your time.

Retired JM · « **Reply #26 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:27:16 AM »

Quote from: Robocop1051 on February 08, 2012, 05:26:23 AM

I thought Noveske used polygonal barrels?

According to their website, their barrels are button rifled with a proprietary button that puts a trapezoidal shape to the lands. They say it gives longer barrel life and better accuracy.

Before ordering, you might want to give them a call and have the Switchblock deleted. If you're not going to use a suppressor, you might be able to save a little money.

eagle10 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 08, 2012, 07:08:17 PM »

Retired, thanks again and so much for your help. Yes, if it will save me some money I will do that, because I not interested in shooting suppressed I tried to find info on their website about their barrels, but was unsuccessful, guess I didn't look hard enough. Thanks again.

eagle10 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:03:47 AM »

Ok I have a dilemma, I ordered a Noveske N6 21" upper and now Rainer Arms and all the rest say they have over sold that particular one. They do however, have the 18" in stock, the sales Rep claimed it to only be .49 lb lighter and I would only lose aprox. 125 yrds of accuracy. I was planning on shooting 1000 yrd NRA Highpower matches with this rifle, is there a big difference between the 2 lengths in accuracy?? Is the Rep right on his claims?? Any info is appreciated, thanks.

Robocop1051 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2012, 09:43:06 AM »

An 18" barrel could do it, but I wouldn't do it with the Noveske. A good 18" bull barrel would work better for you. Even a heavy barrel would be better.

The difference in barrel lengths will produce approximately 100fps less. To make up for this you'd have to go with a lighter bullet. A lighter bullet is going to have more issues the further you plan on launching it.