Curbelo-Moulton Bill H.R.3999 Seeks to Ban Most Semiautomatic Rifles

Curbelo-Moulton Bill H.R.3999

Normally we don’t like to use content from other websites but this is important enough in our opinion to do exactly that. Our friends at Criterion Barrels made us aware of the new bill being proposed to ban bumpfire stocks. That Curbelo-Moulton Bill H.R.3999 is very bad for all gun owners and reaches well beyond the “narrow ban” being discussed by politicians.

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Curbelo-Moulton Bill H.R.3999 Seeks to Ban Most Semiautomatic Rifles

We typically don’t like to get political here at Criterion Barrels Inc., but as of late there have been some concerning legislative proposals that need to be immediately addressed. If you like firearms and possess a semiautomatic rifle, then this piece of proposed legislation involves you directly.

The website of Representative Carlos Curbelo’s (FL-26) recently announced that he “and Seth Moulton (MA-6) announced they are leading a perfectly bipartisan effort to introduce legislation to ban the manufacture, sale, and use of “bump stocks.” The Members hope to introduce and move this legislation as quickly as possible.

Moulton’s and Curbelo’s legislation would be structured in the Noah’s Ark style, meaning Members would have to sign on as a co-sponsor with a Member from the other Party. Currently twenty representatives have co-sponsored this bill.”

This means that a total of ten Republican representatives have discarded their support for the Second Amendment by pushing for far-reaching gun control legislation. Here are the representatives currently co-sponsoring this bill:

Republicans Democrats
Carlos Curbelo (FL-26) Seth Moulton (MA-6)
Peter King (NY-2) Jared Polis (CO-2)
Leonard Lance (NJ-7) Robin Kelly (IL-2)
Patrick Meehan (PA-7) Jacky Rosen (NV-3)
Ed Royce (CA-39) Beto O’Rourke (TX-16)
Chris Smith (NJ-4) Matt Cartwright (PA-17)
Erik Paulsen (MN-3) Tulsi Gabbard (HI-2)
Ryan Costello (PA-6) Ruben Kihuen (NV-4)
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (FL-27) John Delaney (MD-6)
Charlie Dent (PA-15) Gene Green (TX-29)

While many in the firearm community have controversially withdrawn their support of bump fire stock possession and other devices designed to simulate a fully automatic rate of fire due to the recent tragedy in Las Vegas, this new bill featuring poorly worded legislation seeks to indirectly implement a blanket ban of nearly every semi-automatic rifle system currently in existence.

While the full text of the proposed bill can be found through the above link, the portion that raises the most concern involves the following verbiage:

“To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit the manufacture, possession, or transfer of any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but does not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun, and for other purposes.”

The language of this paragraph extends far beyond bump fire stocks, or even other “controversial” bump fire devices such as rubber bands, pieces of string, and belt loops. The vast majority of factory and aftermarket components currently available for semiautomatic rifle platforms are designed to improve performance of the rifle system, allowing the shooter to more effectively place rounds on target in a shorter time span (therefore increasing the effective rate of fire of the rifle).

Possession of virtually all magazines (regardless of capacity), aftermarket triggers, buffers, buffer springs, adjustable gas blocks, and a variety of other components would be immediately rendered illegal through the far-reaching and poorly worded language of this bill. There is no grandfather clause, with only a ninety-day amnesty period offered prior to enactment of the act. After that amnesty period nearly every owner of a semiautomatic rifle with a magazine of any capacity would be immediately classified as a criminal.

This bill doesn’t simply apply to bump fire stocks. It doesn’t just apply to the AR-15. This bill would apply to semiautomatic .22 squirrel rifles that feed from magazines and feed tubes. It applies to M1 Garands and their en bloc clips. It applies to aftermarket trigger and gas system upgrades like those offered by fine brands such as Geissele and JP Enterprises. The gun community has been divided on the bump fire stock question, but we cannot remain divided on this bill. If it passes, millions of law abiding gun owners will instantly qualify as criminals. Enforcement of this legislation will likely increase gradually over the next few decades, using this bill as a legal precedent to restrict magazine size, prohibit use of match triggers and components, and eventually push for a comprehensive ban of semiautomatic rifles.

Speak with your Representatives. Speak with your Senators. Speak with your fellow Second Amendment supporters. Educate them on the far-reaching implications of this bill. This proposed legislation must be stopped, or the Second Amendment as we currently know it will no longer exist.



Curbelo-Moulton Bill (H.R.3999) Seeks to Effectively Ban Most Semiautomatic Rifles



Republicans May Consider Bump Stock Ban

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October 4 2017, 308 AR: Here we go friends “Republicans May Consider Bump Stock Ban“. I pondered on more than one occasion how long before there would a different kind of gun incident that would empower and embolden the liberal media and anti-gun politicians eager for further gun control. While bump fire stocks were on my list of possibilities it was last on my list. I honestly thought with silencers becoming main stream that an unfortunate event would occur by thugs with a stolen suppressed handgun. I thought it would be in a city and part of gang warfare or something to that effect. Never in my wildest dreams would I expect a millionaire lunatic and several bump fire stock equipped AR’s shooting from a Mandalay Bay suite at concert by one of my favorite country artists Jason Aldean. This sounds like the the plot of an action movie. Sadly it’s a grim reality and as I write this fifty nine good people are gone.

I hope I’m wrong but I think we are in trouble this time. If both parties come together for a “Narrow Ban” on devices (accessories) that “legally allow semi-automatic weapons to fire automatically” I feel this will open a door for other “narrow bans” on accessories not considered a firearm. It’s not about the bump fie stock it’s about precedent and that’s a story for a follow up post.

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Republicans May Consider Bump Stock Ban

WASHINGTON — Some key Republicans are showing interest in a narrowly written, Democratic gun-control bill to ban “bump stock” rifle attachments that enable rapid firing.

The bill offered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the Senate Judiciary Committee’s top-ranking Democrat, responds to revelations that some of the weapons Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock used to commit the worst mass shooting in U.S. modern history Sunday were apparently outfitted — legally — with bump stock devices.

Sen. David Perdue, R-Ga., originally thought bump stocks were illegal. When a reporter told him that they are currently legal, he responded: “I’d look at (Feinstein’s bill), for sure.”

“You can’t buy a chain-fed machine gun in the United States today,” he said. “There’s a reason for that, and I’d want to make sure that nobody has access to that, if that’s the law of the land.”

A gap in current law allows shooters with semi-automatic weapons to accelerate the rate of fire by attaching bump stocks, slide fire devices and other similar accessories. The bump stock automatically forces the trigger back against the shooter’s finger after each shot.

“Some have said we shouldn’t do this now,” Feinstein said. “Now is not the time. When is the time going to be there? There is no better way to honor the 59 people who were slaughtered than to take action to prevent this from happening again.”

On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said it was “premature” to discuss “legislative solutions, if there are any,” when asked whether he could support a ban on equipment to convert semi-automatic weapons into automatic ones.

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., shut down talk of limiting bump stocks quickly.

“I’m a second-amendment man I’m not for any gun control,” Shelby said.

But Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., a member of Senate leadership, said some of his colleagues are “at least interested” in learning more about “that narrow issue.”

“I am somebody who I’d like to think is fairly familiar with a lot of firearms and you know the use of those in that incident out there is something I think we need to take a look at,” Thune said.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, the second ranking Republican in the Senate, told reporters Wednesday that trigger accelerators “is something that I think bears looking into, and I talked to Chairman Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I believe that once the investigation is complete and we learn all aspects of what contributed to this event, then we should have a hearing and look into it.”

Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said Tuesday he had never heard of a bump stock, even though he owns many guns.

“So certainly if (the bill) made it over here I’d be willing to look at it in a different light but I don’t know enough,” he said. “All I know was what was reported.”

The bill would ban the sale, transfer, importation, manufacture or possession of bump stocks, trigger cranks and similar accessories that accelerate a semi-automatic rifle’s rate of fire.  Feinstein said the “short and plain spoken language” of the bill will let everyone know what is banned, “no matter how fancy the device is.”

Feinstein introduced the legislation with more than 20 Democratic co-sponsors. She said she is working to win Republican support for the bill and plans to reach out to President Trump, who was in Las Vegas Wednesday to console victims of the tragedy.

Trump, a Second Amendment proponent, has avoided questions about gun-control legislation, saying on Tuesday, “We’ll be talking about gun laws as time goes on.”

Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., called on Trump to provide leadership and back the bill.

“This device has no purpose but to convert an already deadly weapon into a completely lethal carnage force multiplier,” he said. “It should be banned.”

During her news conference, Feinstein noted that she’s no stranger to “what guns can do.” When she was president of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors in 1978, she discovered the body of the city’s first openly gay supervisor, Harvey Milk, in his office after he was shot by a disgruntled former city employee.

Still, she said she never thought this country would see something like the Las Vegas shooting, where a country music concert was turned “into a battlefield.”

Feinstein said her daughter planned to go to the concert with neighbors, but then both families ultimately decided against it. They planned to stay at the Mandalay Bay hotel, where the shooter carried out his attack on concert-goers below.

“That’s how close it came to me,” Feinstein said. “I just thank God. It’s one of those misses in life. It could happen to any one of us.”

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Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil and Grease | Lucas Oil


While browsing the Armalite website for an AR-10 Receiver Extension Tube and AR-10 Rifle Length Gas Tube for a project here on 308 AR I noticed a menu heading “Lucas Oil”. Lucas Oil is a brand I’m very familiar with. I use Lucas Oil Fuel Injector Cleaner in our vehicles. That said I had no idea Lucas made gun care products. In my world seeing the Lucas Oils, Greases and Cleaners on the Armalite website is a glowing endorsement. User reviews seem to agree. Needless to say I have an assortment inbound for review. Stay tuned.

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Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil

Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil is a special blend of oil and petroleum-extracted additives producing a lubrication specially formulated for high volume, high heat and friction firearms.

Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil is designed for semi-auto rifles, shotguns and pistols as well as full auto firearms and suppressors. It offers superior burn-off resistance. Its polymeric film protects metal from rust, moisture and dramatically reduces wear during all shooting conditions.

Applying Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil to bores, bolt carriers and gas pistons makes clean-up of powder residue, copper and carbon fouling a much easier task. Apply a light coat to suppressor baffles and mounts to resist carbon build up and to make cleaning quicker and easier. It neutralizes acids from fingerprints and resists drying for long term storage use. Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil is great for lubrication on all high heat high use firearms and NFA items.

Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil Key Benefits

  • Designed for weapons that experience high volume, full auto, and suppressed fire
  • Protects metal parts from rust, wear and moisture during extreme conditions
  • Provides maximum heat resistance
  • Superior blow back resistance, keeping oil out of your face and off your glasses

Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Oil Packaging

  • #10875 – 1 Ounce (Case of 20) – 2 lbs
  • #10877 – 4 Ounce (Case of 12) – 3 lbs
  • #10870 – 8 Ounce (Case of 12) – 7 lbs
  • #10876 – 1 Gallon (Case of 4) – 25 lbs
  • #10901 – 5 Gallon Pail (1 Pail) – 40 lbs
  • #10890 – 55 Gallon Drum (1 Drum) – 440 lbs
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Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Grease

Used and recommended by major firearms manufacturers, Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Grease is a premium, heavy duty firearm grease formulated with a unique additive system designed to provide maximum lubrication under the most severe operating conditions.

This is true firearms grease, it was developed to lubricate and protect under the harshest heat, friction and pressures of sustained firing while reducing friction and wear. Its unique formulation is designed to prevent rust and corrosion from rain and moisture in fresh and saltwater environments.

Application to metal surfaces and bores will prevent corrosion during long term storage. Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Grease withstands extreme pressures and cushions metal surfaces with an 80 LB Timken load (35 LB is the minimum industry standard). Lucas Oil Extreme Duty Gun Grease is recommended for all firearm types. It provides excellent lubrication and protection on shotguns, pistols and revolvers as well as full auto carbines, rifles and belt fed machine guns.

Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Grease Key Benefits

  • Smooth tacky consistency stays where you apply it.
  • Excellent rust protection.
  • Long lasting all-weather lubrication, prevents saltwater corrosion.
  • Temperature range -20 to 540 F.
  • Timken Load – 80 lbs. (over twice the minimum industry standard).
  • Weld Point – 620 Kg (over 3x the minimum industry standard).
  • Made in U.S.A.

Lucas Extreme Duty Gun Grease Packaging

  • #10889 – 1 Ounce (Case of 6) – 2 lbs
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Lucas Extreme Duty CLP

Used and recommended by major firearms manufacturers, Lucas Oil Extreme Duty CLP is designed to clean, lubricate and protect your firearms in one simple step.

It contains high grade additives that dissolve powder residue, old lubrication and other contaminates. It penetrates deep into rust to help clean neglected firearms and free rusted parts and actions. Extreme Duty CLP’s superior anti-wear additives reduce friction and wear while the unique waterproof, super slick film resists blow out and extends firearm life and runtime.

The special formulation leaves behind a microscopic layer of protection against rust and corrosion caused by handling, fingerprints, moisture and harsh environments, including salt water. Used by major firearms manufacturers to coat and protect firearms prior to shipping, the solvent based Extreme Duty CPL aerosol contains a unique drying agent that leaves your firearm clean and protected from rust and corrosion without any gummy residue.

Lucas Extreme Duty CLP Key Benefits

  • Cleans and protects your firearms in one easy step.
  • Penetrates deep into rusted firearms, freeing stuck parts and aids in cleaning.
  • Provides long-lasting protection from rust.
  • Great for general shop and home use too.
  • Made in U.S.A.

Lucas Extreme Duty CLP Packaging

  • #10915 – 4 Ounce (Case of 12) – 13 lbs
  • #10916 – 11 Ounce Aerosol (Case of 12) – 12 lbs
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Lucas Extreme Duty Contact Cleaner

Used and recommended by major firearms manufacturers, Lucas Oil Extreme Duty Contact Cleaner’s consistent high pressure spray contains a unique blend of solvents and cleaning agents designed to blast away powder residue, grease, oil and other debris from firearm actions, slides, barrels and parts. Safe on your firearm’s metal finishes and will not harm polymers subjected to incidental contact. This unique formula displaces water, great for when your firearm is caught out in a rainstorm while hunting. Its quick drying, zero residue properties make it ideal for final degreasing of firearms prior to bluing, parkerizing or spray finish applications. The non-chlorinated, CFC free formula dries quickly and leaves no residue. Read entire label before using this product.

Lucas Extreme Duty Contact Cleaner Key Benefits

  • Superior cleaning and drying formula.
  • Non-chlorinated and CFC free.
  • Made in U.S.A.

Lucas Extreme Duty Contact Cleaner Packaging

  • #10905 – 11 Ounce (Case of 12) – 13 lbs
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Lucas Extreme Duty Bore Solvent & Ultrasonic Gun Cleaner

Used and recommended by major firearms manufacturers, Lucas Extreme Duty Bore Solvent & Ultrasonic Gun Cleaner is a premium blend of cleaning solvents and corrosion inhibitors. It easily removes carbon and powder residue from actions as well as copper and lead fouling from cylinders and barrels. The solvent based formula cleans deep to remove old oils and grease and provides a micro thin layer of rust and corrosion inhibitor on metal surfaces and bores. It is safe on polymers and factory applied firearm finishes.

Lucas Extreme Duty Bore Solvent & Ultrasonic Gun Cleaner was also designed to thoroughly and efficiently clean firearms using an ultrasonic cleaner and its high flash point makes it ideal for heated tank units. The special formulation is designed to be used straight from the bottle in ultrasonic cleaners without any messy mixing and without having to use a rinsing agent or lubrication dip, saving you time and money.

After ultrasonic cleaning, simply remove your firearm, allow it to drip dry or used compressed air, lubricate per manufacturer’s instructions and reassemble. Your firearm is clean, protected from corrosion inside and out, lubricated and ready for storage, carry or use.

Lucas Extreme Duty Bore Solvent & Ultrasonic Gun Cleaner Key Benefits

    • Cleans and protects your firearms, provides excellent rust protection.
    • Low odor, pleasant grape scent, contains no ammonia, kerosene or water.
    • Great for use in ultrasonic cleaners, solvent based formula requires no mixing, rinsing or oil dip after ultrasonic use, saving time and money.
    • Ideal in heated units, flash point of 210° F is much safer than other products.
  • Made in U.S.A.

Lucas Extreme Duty Bore Solvent & Ultrasonic Gun Cleaner Packaging

  • #10907 – 4 Ounces (Case of 12) – 3 lbs
  • #10918 – 16 Ounces (Case of 12) – 12 lbs
  • #10909 – 64 Ounces (Case of 6) – 25 lbs
  • #10114 – 5 Gallon Pail (1 Pail) – 40 lbs
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Lucas Oil Gun Metal Polish & Tumbler Media Additive

Used and recommended by major firearms manufacturers, Lucas Oil Gun Metal Polish & Tumbler Media Additive cleans and polishes factory firearm finishes like blue, nickel, stainless, aluminum and brass. Its acid and ammonia free formula safely removes stains and rust from metals with no hard rubbing while protecting treated surfaces from oxidation and tarnishing. Great for use as a tumbler media additive to remove oxidation, powder residue, fingerprints, and other contaminants leaving brass and nickel cases bright and shiny. Use with walnut shell or corn cob tumbling media to reduce cleaning time by up to half compared to using plain media alone. Lucas Gun Metal Polish & Tumbler Media Additive contains no acids or ammonia, so it won’t damage primers or brass and doesn’t smell. Not for use on cold bluing.

Lucas Oil Gun Metal Polish & Tumbler Media Additive Key Benefits

  • Safe for use on all metals.
  • Cleans, polishes and protects in one easy step.
  • Made in U.S.A.

Lucas Oil Gun Metal Polish & Tumbler Media Additive Packaging

  • #10878 – 4 Ounce (Case of 12) – 4 lbs
  • #10880 – 16 Ounce (Case of 12) – 15.5 lbs


6.5 Creedmoor Military Interest Rumors Continue

Special Operations Command is looking at a new 6.5 mm round for its sniper rifle

6.5 Creedmoor Military Interest Rumors Continue to come in at a brisk rate from military and financial channels. I’ve been at this for a long time and  this story seems to be evidence of a real move by the US military to adopt a more accurate and powerful round than the 5.56 and 7.62 NATO.

New rifle, bigger bullets: Inside the Army's plan to ditch the M4 and 5.56

After carrying the M16 or one of its cousins across the globe for more than half a century, soldiers could get a peek at a new prototype assault rifle that fires a larger round by 2020.

Army researchers are testing half a dozen ammunition variants in “intermediate calibers,” which falls between the current 7.62 mm and 5.56 mm rounds, to create a new light machine gun and inform the next-generation individual assault rifle/round combo.

The weapon designs being tested will be “unconventional,” officials said, and likely not one that is currently commercially available.

Some intermediate calibers being tested include the .260 Remington, 6.5 Creedmoor, .264 USA as well as other non-commercial intermediate calibers, including cased telescoped ammo, Army officials said.

If selected by senior leaders, the weapon could resolve a close-quarters weapons debate about calibers that critics say dates to the 1920s and has influenced military small arms ever since.

If successful, the new rifle and round combination would give troops a weapon they can carry with about the same number of rounds as the current 5.56 mm but with greater range and accuracy in their firepower — with little change in weight.

The new rifle would likely replace the M16/M4 platform, which has been in the hands of troops since the 1960s and undergone multiple modifications and upgrades.

Maj. Jason Bohannon, lethality branch chief at the Army’s Maneuver Center of Excellence at Fort Benning, Georgia, and Matt Walker, deputy director of the branch and a retired command sergeant major, spoke recently to Army Times about broad efforts in small arms weapons research and development.

‘Better option’

Work on the new round began in recent years, Bohannon said, and much of the next steps in developing both the round and rifle will be driven by the Small Arms Ammunition Configuration study.

The study has been going on since at least 2014, according to the Army.

The study is expected to conclude in the next three months, Walker said.

Portions of that report and its findings will likely be made public, but other portions may be deemed sensitive, they said.

Multiple active and retired military arms advocates and industry experts have presented papers and data on the alleged “overmatch” that U.S. troops face on the battlefield with their current calibers.

One oft-noted recent study was authored by then-Army Maj. Thomas Ehrhart, who wrote a 2009 paper titled, “Increasing Small Arms Lethality in Afghanistan: Taking back the Infantry Half-Kilometer.”

The paper drew from soldiers’ experience in Afghanistan firefights.

Ehrhart wrote that half of the firefights infantry units in Afghanistan encountered were past 300 meters, and the 5.56 mm round had lessened lethality at longer distances.

He offered two solutions — a more effective 5.56 mm round, or the “better option” of adopting a caliber in the 6.5 mm to 7 mm range.

The major then cited a 2006 study by the Joint Service Wound Ballistics–Integrated Product Team, which also named the ideal caliber in the 6.5 mm to 7 mm size.

Decades-old debate

This isn’t the first time ammunition experts have reached that conclusion.

“There is a long-running debate, going back almost 100 years now, about the optimal, optimum small arm,” said retired Maj. Gen. Robert Scales, author of the 2016 book “Scales on War: The Future of America’s Military at Risk.”

Scales pointed to the development of the M1 rifle by John Garand in the 1920s.

At the time, Garand built both a .30 caliber and a .276 caliber version of the rifle.

But a surplus of .30 caliber ammunition from World War I, coupled later with the financial constraints of the Great Depression, led to senior defense officials and political leaders calling for a .30 caliber rifle.

The M1’s design eventually evolved into the M14. Both rifles share a 7.62 mm or .30 caliber bore. But the M14 was soon discarded when, in the 1960s, Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay purchased the early version of the M16 for some Air Force units.

The M16 was then adopted across the branches and fielded for service in Vietnam, where troops reported frequent jamming and malfunctions in early versions of the weapon.

One case, detailed in the 2010 book “The Gun,” by former Marine and award-winning journalist C.J. Chivers, grabbed national attention during the Vietnam War when Marine 1st Lt. Michael Chervenak wrote an open letter that recounted his company’s experiences with the new rifle jamming in combat.

The letter led to hearings in Congress and, along with other incidents, contributed to decades of controversy, modifications and adaptations, which resulted in the current M4 variants, which continue to have their supporters and critics.

Maj. Thomas Campbell, a spokesman for Army Training and Doctrine Command, provided Army Times with the results of a nine-year, post-deployment survey of 9,000 soldiers conducted by the command.

The survey saw 80 percent of troops rate the M4 as “effective or better.”

The survey did not compare the M4 to other weapons, but instead asked the respondents to rate the overall effectiveness of the weapon in the performance of their duties while deployed, Campbell said.

Time to invest

The aging M16/M4 platform is nearing the end of its life cycle, Bohannon said.

“Right now the [M16/M4] platform we have is a workhorse and very effective in the hands of a trained soldier or Marine,” he said.

But, Walker at Maneuver Center added, the Army can’t continue to ask more of the weapon system that has been in service for so long.

“Our next investment will likely be in a new operating platform,” Bohannon said.

Critics of the M16/M4 and the 5.56 mm round say no matter what has been done to improve the M16 and its subsequent variations, the 5.56 mm round lacks the range and lethality needed in modern firefights.

Some of the concerns Scales said he believes are driving military leaders to finally look at an alternative to the 5.56 mm and the M16/M4 include:

— Improvements in adversaries’ body armor, which make the 5.56 mm less lethal.

— Current adversaries such as the Islamic State terror group and others using bigger rounds with more reach against U.S. troops, creating an overmatch.

— Jamming problems with M16/M4 variants that continue to plague the design.

At the 2016 National Defense Industrial Association Armament Systems Forum, retired Brig. Gen. Dave Grange and Jim Schatz, an Army veteran and weapons expert who has since passed away, each gave presentations calling for a new “intermediate caliber” in the 6.5 mm range.

They also referenced the Russian, Islamic State and al-Qaida advantages with longer-reaching and more lethal weapons, including reports of Russian work on their own 6.5 mm assault rifle.

But, Scales said, one of the problems that led to the .30 caliber being adopted over the 6.5 mm nearly a century ago still remains — an abundance of 5.56 mm ammunition stockpiled across U.S. military commands and NATO, whose nations fire the 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm as part of an ammunition standardization agreement made decades ago.

Other weapons work

Meanwhile, the Army’s Maneuver Center isn’t the only entity looking at new or existing small arms replacements.

Marine Corps Times, a sister publication of Army Times, recently reported the Marines are considering equipping nearly every Marine 0311 infantryman with the M27, which first hit the fleet in large quantities in 2010.

The M27 is seen by experts as superior to the M4 in reliability and increased range. But, at $3,000, it runs three times the cost of an M4 and is still chambered in 5.56 mm.

U.S. Special Operations Command is currently testing a new commercially available sniper rifle using the .260 Remington and 6.5 mm Creedmoor rounds, which “stay supersonic longer, have less wind drift and better terminal performance than 7.62 mm ammunition,” said Maj. Aron Hauquitz.

SOCOM is also developing polymer ammunition in 6.5 mm to reduce the weight load.

Current research is showing polymer 6.5 mm reducing weight by one-third from 7.62 mm, reaching nearly the same weight as conventional brass 5.56 mm.

Both regular Army weapons researchers at the Maneuver Center and Marine Corps weapons experts are monitoring the SOCOM testing, officials said.

Military Times

Special Operations Command is looking at a new 6.5 mm round for its sniper rifle
Textron Systems, a private defense industry company, conducted a caliber study using a specially designed .264 caliber cartridge which they said resulted in “terminal effects greater than 7.62 mm NATO out to 1,200 meters” in both their carbine and machine gun.

Data provided by the company showed the machine gun is 7 pounds lighter than the 7.62 mm M240L with 800 rounds of their lightweight ammunition, lowering the combat load by 27 pounds.

The machine gun is also lighter than the M249 SAW, wrote Paul Shipley, chief engineer of light armaments for the company.

While SOCOM is looking at immediate fixes and off-the-shelf options, Bohannon said that the Maneuver Center and related entities working on weapons issues for the regular Army “invests in more revolutionary, long-term” solutions.

Bohannon said that his team has weekly meetings with officials involved with the Joint Service Small Arms Requirements Integration working group, which includes all the services and SOCOM.

While the Army continues to explore existing intermediate rifle/round combinations, their work is only to provide options for senior leadership to choose and then request funding, Bohannon said.

He did not provide cost estimates or a timeline for the potential replacement.

Special Operations Command is looking at a new 6.5 mm round for its sniper rifle

Special Operations Command is exploring a new caliber for its semi-automatic sniper rifle needs and upgrading one of its bolt-action sniper rifle systems.

Maj. Aron Hauquitz told Military Times Tuesday that SOCOM is in the preliminary stages of exploring a sniper rifle chambered in the 6.5 mm caliber. The two commercially available rounds being evaluated are the .260 Remington and the 6.5 mm Creedmoor.

Research shows that both rounds will “stay supersonic longer, have less wind drift and better terminal performance than 7.62 mm ammunition,” SOCOM officials said.

Hauquitz said that the research is focused on the popularity and availability of the cartridge, and finding out the benefits and drawbacks of the different rounds.

At the same time, SOCOM is working to develop polymer ammunition in 6.5 mm to reduce the load for operators, Hauquitz said. Research is showing a one-third weight reduction for 7.62 mm ammunition, allowing the 6.5 mm to come in at 5.56 mm weight ranges.

While both the rifle and the ammunition are being developed together, Hauquitz said the polymer portion of the research would not delay potential fielding of a 6.5 mm rifle.

He didn’t provide a specific date or timeline for when the new rifle would be in operators’ hands but said they would have a better idea regarding the caliber later this year.

“We’re purely in the exploratory phase,” Hauquitz said. “We’re trying to see if we can take a weapon that is 7.62 and give it greater range, accuracy and lethality.”

Hauquitz said the 6.5 mm exploration came out of preliminary results of the Small Arms Ammunition Configuration study, which evaluates for the military commercially available ammunition, emerging ammunition capabilities, and ammunition technologies for conventional and non-conventional calibers.

Last year, the Army chose the smaller Heckler & Koch G28 Compact Semi-Automatic Sniper System for close-quarters fighting to replace the M110 made by Knight’s Armament. Both fire the 7.62 mm round.

At the time, H&K received the $44.5 million contract to manufacture up to 3,643 rifles over two years.

Meanwhile, the changes SOCOM is seeking for its bolt-action sniper rifle became public earlier this month with a “sources sought” notice. The rifle’s development also involves Marine snipers.

The SOCOM contracting office posted the notice for an Advanced Sniper Rifle on the Federal Business Opportunities website on April 6. Industry responses are due on April 24.

SOCOM’s current bolt-action rifle is made by Remington Defense, which won the $79.7 million government contract in 2013 after the initial announcement was posted in 2009. Dubbed the Precision Sniper Rifle, it included three quick-change barrels in calibers 7.62 mm NATO, .300 Winchester Magnum and .338 Lapua Magnum for various distance and power needs.

Lt. Cmdr. Lara Bollinger, a SOCOM spokeswoman, said Friday that the ASR has “far more refined” requirements and performance specifications than the current PSR sniper rifle.

The website states that the posting is not a solicitation or request for proposal but meant to “obtain information for planning purposes only.”

The PSR was designed to replace the three sniper rifles then being used by special ops snipers — the .300 Winchester Magnum MK13, the M40, which shoots 7.62 mm NATO, and the M24, which has separate versions that fire the 7.62 mm NATO and a .338 Lapua Magnum, according to Remington.

The recent announcement asks for industry information about a seemingly identical rifle but adaptable for the 7.62 mm NATO, .300 Norma Magnum and .338 Norma Magnum.

Firearms experts generally cite the Norma Magnum design as producing a faster and more accurate round.

SOCOM listed the following needs for the Advanced Sniper Rifle as a potential Precision Sniper Rifle replacement:

•A light/sound suppressor that can be attached to the system when needed.
•A system that includes three caliber conversion kits that can fire the 7.62 mm NATO, .300 Norma Magnum and .338 Norma Magnum.
•Not to exceed 17 pounds or a total length, without suppressor, of 50 inches.
•A folding or collapsing stock.

The 2013 PSR contract requested up to 5,150 PSRs and 4.6 million rounds of ammunition, according to the Remington website.

During the development of the PSR, the Marine Corps opted to continue to upgrade the M40 sniper rifle platform, which shoots the 7.62 mm NATO, despite some who argued for the larger caliber .338 as an option.

A Marine spokesman said Thursday that they are continuing to make modifications to the M40A6 while also working with the Army and Special Operations Command to develop the Advanced Sniper Rifle.

The modifications include an improved, shorter barrel, modular stock and 1.2-pound weight reduction, said Billy Epperson of Marine Corps Combat Development Command.

The new barrel increases bullet flight stability, he said. The new stock incorporates a folding adjustable buttstock, and additional accessory rails will support aiming lasers and optics. Each rifle also comes with a new pack, ballistic calculator, weather station and chronograph for muzzle velocity recordings.

As the ASR is developed, Epperson said the Marines are “assessing the MK13 as a potential interim solution” to increase sniper teams’ range and lethality.

The .300 Winchester Magnum MK13 has a farther range than the 7.62 mm NATO round the M40A6 uses. The MK13 is a rifle that has been used by Army snipers and other units.

Regular Army snipers continue to use the bolt-action M2010 Enhanced Sniper Rifle, also produced by Remington. It is chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum.

US Army Considers Battle Rifle in 7 62 NATO

US Army Considers Battle Rifle in 7.62 NATO

Soldier Systems: According to multiple sources, what started out as a directed requirement for a 7.62 NATO Designated Marksmanship Rifle for issue to Infantry Rifle Squads has grown in scope to increase the Basis of Issue to all personnel in Brigade Combat Teams and perhaps beyond. The genesis of this requirement is overmatch. The troops feel like they’re in a street fight with a guy with longer arms. The 7.62x54R cartridge gives the enemy those longer arms.

Consequently, the Army wants to enable the rifleman to accurately engage targets at a further range than the current 5.56mm. Although at this point, I’ll keep that exact exact distance close to the vest. The goal here is to foster a dialogue about the 7.62 requirement in general, and not offer operational specifics.

It’s important to establish right up front that 7.62mm is not the Army’s end goal. The “Interim” component of this capability’s name relies on a plan to eventually adopt one of the 6.5mm family of intermediate calibers. Currently, elements of the Army are evaluating .260, .264 USA and .277 USA. The .260 is commercially available while .264 USA and .277 USA are developments of the Army Marksmanship Unit. Unfortunately, the US Army doesn’t plan to conduct an intermediate caliber study until the early 2020s. That’s why they want to adopt 7.62mm now. The idea is to adopt the Battle Rifle to deal with a newly identified threat with what’s available now, and transition the fleet to an intermediate caliber cartridge, once its selected. Additionally, the transition to this proposed intermediate caliber cartridge is possible from a 7.62 platform. Such a transition is all-but-impossible with the current 5.56 receiver sets.

The path of least resistance may well be to adopt an existing 7.62mm Government Off The Shelf (GOTS) weapon. It means less oversight and is quicker to put in action. There are currently four options, although the first one I’ll mention hasn’t even been discussed.

M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle

M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle

First up is the M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle. This option, isn’t even really an option. Brought back into limited service during the early years of the war, it suffers from numerous shortcomings. However, it did validate the need for a 7.62 rifle option.



Second, is the Mk17 SCAR-H. Built by FN, and designed to meet USSOCOM’s SOF Combat Assault Rifle requirement, it is a modular platform with a simple swap from one caliber to another. This makes it very attractive for a planned transition to a new cartridge. However, the platform was adopted after a competition between 5.56 weapons and was not evaluated for adoption against other weapons in its 7.62 configuration. USSOCOM recently removed all of its SCARs from service so they are there for the taking. Unfortunately, it’s not a panacea. There aren’t nearly enough in inventory so the Army would have to buy more, but that’s true of any of the GOTS options. Finally, the Mk17 uses a proprietary magazine, adapted from the FN FAL which is less than ideal.



The third option is the M110 Semi-Auto Sniper System. Currently in service with the Army as a Sniper weapon, it is manufactured by Knight’s Armament Co. As a system, SASS comes with a rather expensive optic and some other accessories not for general issue. On the plus side, it has been adopted by numerous other user groups and a multitide of variants are readily available. It uses what most believe is the best of the 7.62 AR-style magazines and is considered industry standard.

HK M110A1 HK 417 Variant

HK M110A1, HK 417 Variant

The final GOTS option is the newly adopted M110A1, Compact Semi-Auto Sniper System. Manufactured by H&K, it is a variant of their HK417 platform, or more specifically, an Americanized G28 sniper rifle. It utilizes a piston system which many prefer over the M110’s M4-style direct impingement gas operating system. However, as a weapon system, it incorporates an expensive optic and a rather unconventional suppressor system. Additionally, it uses a proprietary magazine. Essentially, it would need to be “dumbed down” for general issue.

It’s important to note that if any of one these platforms is adopted for this role, it will require some changes as mentioned above because they were all adopted for other requirements.

However, the Army may evaluate these GOTS platforms and determine that none of them meet their requirement. In this case they may very well issue an RFP to industry. There are definite long-term advantages to this course of action. For example, the Army can get exactly what they want, rather than adapting a weapon originally procured for another purpose. Additionally, the Army can leverage the latest in small arms technology such as the new short frame receivers. Interestingly, these may well turn out to be more appropriate for use with an intermediate caliber cartridge.

In order to take full advantage of the range of the 7.62 cartridge, the current draft requirement for the IBR calls for a 1×6 variable optic.

Obviously, a transition to the heavier 7.62 cartridge means a reduction in the basic load of the Soldier, to just under half of the current 210 rounds. That is a serious consideration; perhaps the most important for Army leaders to contemplate. Obviously, transition to the intermediate caliber cartridge will mean more bullets per Soldier, but there must be continued development of polymer cases or telescoping rounds to take fully realize this increase in lethality.

Other factors to consider are the additional weight and recoil of a 7.62mm Battle Rifle. Let’s face it, the military transitioned from the M14 to the M16 for multiple reasons, and one of those was weight savings. Soldiers are also going to require additional training to take full advantage of the new capability. Increased engagement distances also mean Soldiers will require access to longer marksmanship ranges.

Additionally, word is that the Army desires a sub-MOA gun. If this is true, they are setting themselves up for failure because M80 Ball is not sub-MOA ammunition. Even the M110 is required to often 1.3 MOA accuracy. Something similar occurred in USSOCOM’s Precision Sniper Rifle program where the ammo was not spec’d to the same level of the rifle which fired it. If the Army tests any of these rifles, even if built to deliver sub-MOA precision, with an ammunition which delivers 2-3 MOA, they will get 2-3 MOA results. It’s the old story of the weakest link, and the capability will be considered a failure because all of the variables weren’t considered. You want an accurate rifle? Make sure you use accurate ammunition.

Then, there’s this whole ‘interim’ concept. Too many times I’ve seen capabilities that were sold initially as an interim and ended up never being replaced with the proposed final capability. There’s always a chance our Soldiers could get stuck with a 7.62 rifle if the planned caliber study doesn’t pan out or worse yet, DoD faces another budget challenged situation similar to the sequester. As we’ve learned, we go to war with the Army we have, not the one we wish we had.

While the change to the intermediate cartridge could be accomplished with bolt and barrel swaps, which is less expensive than completely new rifles, the Army will still need to transition to a new ammunition. That would be two ammunition transitions in less than a decade and three within 15 years, if you consider M855A1.

To be sure, this is a very exciting opportunity for the US Army. It could well mean the first major upgrade to the Soldier’s individual weapon in half a century. My concern, as always, is that the Army doesn’t rush into something it will regret, and that it creates a realistic requirememt, having considered all factors, including ammunition and magazines, which continue to plague the M4. As the DoD budget grows over the next few years, there will be money enough to make rash as well as bad decisions.

On the other hand, there will be institutional momentum against this concept. The Army must not let those voices drown out the requirement to overmatch the reach of our enemies on the battlefield. If the requirement is valid, then it must be supported. The rifle is the most basic weapon in the Army’s inventory.

Instead, the Army must navigate the middle path, carefully considering its near and long-tern requirements. The M16/M4 with its 5.56mm caliber have been in service for over 50 years. The next rifle may well be in service just as long. Or, until Phased Plasma Rifles in the 40-watt range, are available.

US Army 7.62 Rifle Update

Based on briefings conducted at the NDIA Armaments Conference by PEO Soldier’s PM Weapons team, along with discussions with industry, we have an update on Army plans to field a new 7.62 NATO capability within the next 24 months.

First off, although a contract has been awarded for H&K’s Compact Semi Automatic Sniper System, the weapon remains unfunded for FY17. Currently, type classification is planned for FY18.

However, the Army is also committed to concurrently fielding an SDMR based on the same platform as the CSASS.

According to briefing slides provided by PM Soldier Weapons, an Army directed requirement to engage enemy personnel at the Squad level from 0-600m, dated December, 2016 will purchase “6,069 HK G28E rifles” via an urgent material release.

The Army plans to use the existing M80A1 ammo for the SDMR, which is a 7.62 version of the 5.56mm M855A1. The rifles are said to be configured in a similar fashion to the CSASS, with Geissele M-Lok rail and OSS suppressor. However, the SDMRs will be outfitted with an as-of-yet still unselected 1-6x variable optic rather than the CSASS optic from Schmidt & Bender.

While there has been talk of adding up to two SDMRs per Squad, internal Army discussions continue about expanding the basis of issue of a 7.62 rifle, now referred to as the Interim Service Combat Rifle to all BCT members. However, there is still no formal requirement for the ISCR, and acquisition officials are leaning forward on the foxhole in anticipation, prepared to make this happen as quickly as possible.




Aero Precision 6.5 Creedmoor M5E1 Complete Rifle

Aero Precision 6.5 Creedmoor M5E1 Complete Rifles

Aero Precision 6.5 Creedmoor M5E1 Complete Rifles

M5E1 Complete Rifle, 18″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Mid-Length Barrel

Sku: APPG650001

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  • Muzzle Device: Standard AR 308 A2 Birdcage Flash Hider

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M5E1 Complete Rifle, 20″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Rifle Length Barrel

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The Aero Precision 6.5 Creedmoor M5E1 Complete Rifle with 20″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Rifle Length Barrel is built on the popular Enhanced Series Upper Receiver. This system features a custom integrated upper receiver and handguard system that provides the shooter a light-weight, free-floated, rigid design resulting in superior performance and accuracy.

All complete rifles are assembled by Aero Precision professional gunsmiths and are tested prior to leaving our facility. Buy with confidence when you purchase a complete 6.5 Creedmoor Rifle from Aero Precision.

Upper Features:

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  • Barrel: 20″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Barrel, Rifle Length, 1:8 Twist, 416R Stainless Steel, Bead Blasted
  • Handguard: Gen 2 Enhanced Series Handguard of choice
  • Gas System: Low Profile Gas Block and Rifle Length Gas Tube
  • Bolt Carrier Group: M16 Cut, 8620 Steel, Phosphate Finish, Properly Staked
  • Muzzle Device: Standard AR 308 A2 Birdcage Flash Hider

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M5E1 Complete Rifle, 22″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Rifle Length Barrel

Sku: APPG650009

The Aero Precision 6.5 Creedmoor M5E1 Complete Rifle with 22″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Rifle Length Barrel is built on the popular Enhanced Series Upper Receiver. This system features a custom integrated upper receiver and handguard system that provides the shooter a light-weight, free-floated, rigid design resulting in superior performance and accuracy.

All complete rifles are assembled by Aero Precision professional gunsmiths and are tested prior to leaving our facility. Buy with confidence when you purchase a complete 6.5 Creedmoor Rifle from Aero Precision.

Upper Features:

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  • Barrel: 22″ 6.5 Creedmoor Stainless Steel Barrel, Rifle Length, 1:8 Twist, 416R Stainless Steel, Bead Blasted
  • Handguard: Gen 2 Enhanced Series Handguard of choice
  • Gas System: Low Profile Gas Block and Rifle Length Gas Tube
  • Bolt Carrier Group: M16 Cut, 8620 Steel, Phosphate Finish, Properly Staked
  • Muzzle Device: Standard AR 308 A2 Birdcage Flash Hider

Lower Features:

  • Lower: Gen 2 Lower Receiver with flared magwell and tension screw
  • Lower Parts Kit: Standard .308 Lower Parts Kit
  • Buffer Kit: M5 .308 Rifle Buffer Kit
  • Stock: Magpul PRS Gen 3 Stock
  • Grip: Magpul MOE Grip
  • Magazine: Magpul 20 Round PMAG®
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