US Army Considers Battle Rifle in 7 62 NATO

US Army Considers Battle Rifle in 7.62 NATO

Soldier Systems: According to multiple sources, what started out as a directed requirement for a 7.62 NATO Designated Marksmanship Rifle for issue to Infantry Rifle Squads has grown in scope to increase the Basis of Issue to all personnel in Brigade Combat Teams and perhaps beyond. The genesis of this requirement is overmatch. The troops feel like they’re in a street fight with a guy with longer arms. The 7.62x54R cartridge gives the enemy those longer arms.

Consequently, the Army wants to enable the rifleman to accurately engage targets at a further range than the current 5.56mm. Although at this point, I’ll keep that exact exact distance close to the vest. The goal here is to foster a dialogue about the 7.62 requirement in general, and not offer operational specifics.

It’s important to establish right up front that 7.62mm is not the Army’s end goal. The “Interim” component of this capability’s name relies on a plan to eventually adopt one of the 6.5mm family of intermediate calibers. Currently, elements of the Army are evaluating .260, .264 USA and .277 USA. The .260 is commercially available while .264 USA and .277 USA are developments of the Army Marksmanship Unit. Unfortunately, the US Army doesn’t plan to conduct an intermediate caliber study until the early 2020s. That’s why they want to adopt 7.62mm now. The idea is to adopt the Battle Rifle to deal with a newly identified threat with what’s available now, and transition the fleet to an intermediate caliber cartridge, once its selected. Additionally, the transition to this proposed intermediate caliber cartridge is possible from a 7.62 platform. Such a transition is all-but-impossible with the current 5.56 receiver sets.

The path of least resistance may well be to adopt an existing 7.62mm Government Off The Shelf (GOTS) weapon. It means less oversight and is quicker to put in action. There are currently four options, although the first one I’ll mention hasn’t even been discussed.

M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle

M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle

First up is the M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle. This option, isn’t even really an option. Brought back into limited service during the early years of the war, it suffers from numerous shortcomings. However, it did validate the need for a 7.62 rifle option.

FN Mk17 SCAR-H

FN Mk17 SCAR-H

Second, is the Mk17 SCAR-H. Built by FN, and designed to meet USSOCOM’s SOF Combat Assault Rifle requirement, it is a modular platform with a simple swap from one caliber to another. This makes it very attractive for a planned transition to a new cartridge. However, the platform was adopted after a competition between 5.56 weapons and was not evaluated for adoption against other weapons in its 7.62 configuration. USSOCOM recently removed all of its SCARs from service so they are there for the taking. Unfortunately, it’s not a panacea. There aren’t nearly enough in inventory so the Army would have to buy more, but that’s true of any of the GOTS options. Finally, the Mk17 uses a proprietary magazine, adapted from the FN FAL which is less than ideal.

KAC M110 SASS

KAC M110 SASS

The third option is the M110 Semi-Auto Sniper System. Currently in service with the Army as a Sniper weapon, it is manufactured by Knight’s Armament Co. As a system, SASS comes with a rather expensive optic and some other accessories not for general issue. On the plus side, it has been adopted by numerous other user groups and a multitide of variants are readily available. It uses what most believe is the best of the 7.62 AR-style magazines and is considered industry standard.

HK M110A1 HK 417 Variant

HK M110A1, HK 417 Variant

The final GOTS option is the newly adopted M110A1, Compact Semi-Auto Sniper System. Manufactured by H&K, it is a variant of their HK417 platform, or more specifically, an Americanized G28 sniper rifle. It utilizes a piston system which many prefer over the M110’s M4-style direct impingement gas operating system. However, as a weapon system, it incorporates an expensive optic and a rather unconventional suppressor system. Additionally, it uses a proprietary magazine. Essentially, it would need to be “dumbed down” for general issue.

It’s important to note that if any of one these platforms is adopted for this role, it will require some changes as mentioned above because they were all adopted for other requirements.

However, the Army may evaluate these GOTS platforms and determine that none of them meet their requirement. In this case they may very well issue an RFP to industry. There are definite long-term advantages to this course of action. For example, the Army can get exactly what they want, rather than adapting a weapon originally procured for another purpose. Additionally, the Army can leverage the latest in small arms technology such as the new short frame receivers. Interestingly, these may well turn out to be more appropriate for use with an intermediate caliber cartridge.

In order to take full advantage of the range of the 7.62 cartridge, the current draft requirement for the IBR calls for a 1×6 variable optic.

Obviously, a transition to the heavier 7.62 cartridge means a reduction in the basic load of the Soldier, to just under half of the current 210 rounds. That is a serious consideration; perhaps the most important for Army leaders to contemplate. Obviously, transition to the intermediate caliber cartridge will mean more bullets per Soldier, but there must be continued development of polymer cases or telescoping rounds to take fully realize this increase in lethality.

Other factors to consider are the additional weight and recoil of a 7.62mm Battle Rifle. Let’s face it, the military transitioned from the M14 to the M16 for multiple reasons, and one of those was weight savings. Soldiers are also going to require additional training to take full advantage of the new capability. Increased engagement distances also mean Soldiers will require access to longer marksmanship ranges.

Additionally, word is that the Army desires a sub-MOA gun. If this is true, they are setting themselves up for failure because M80 Ball is not sub-MOA ammunition. Even the M110 is required to often 1.3 MOA accuracy. Something similar occurred in USSOCOM’s Precision Sniper Rifle program where the ammo was not spec’d to the same level of the rifle which fired it. If the Army tests any of these rifles, even if built to deliver sub-MOA precision, with an ammunition which delivers 2-3 MOA, they will get 2-3 MOA results. It’s the old story of the weakest link, and the capability will be considered a failure because all of the variables weren’t considered. You want an accurate rifle? Make sure you use accurate ammunition.

Then, there’s this whole ‘interim’ concept. Too many times I’ve seen capabilities that were sold initially as an interim and ended up never being replaced with the proposed final capability. There’s always a chance our Soldiers could get stuck with a 7.62 rifle if the planned caliber study doesn’t pan out or worse yet, DoD faces another budget challenged situation similar to the sequester. As we’ve learned, we go to war with the Army we have, not the one we wish we had.

While the change to the intermediate cartridge could be accomplished with bolt and barrel swaps, which is less expensive than completely new rifles, the Army will still need to transition to a new ammunition. That would be two ammunition transitions in less than a decade and three within 15 years, if you consider M855A1.

To be sure, this is a very exciting opportunity for the US Army. It could well mean the first major upgrade to the Soldier’s individual weapon in half a century. My concern, as always, is that the Army doesn’t rush into something it will regret, and that it creates a realistic requirememt, having considered all factors, including ammunition and magazines, which continue to plague the M4. As the DoD budget grows over the next few years, there will be money enough to make rash as well as bad decisions.

On the other hand, there will be institutional momentum against this concept. The Army must not let those voices drown out the requirement to overmatch the reach of our enemies on the battlefield. If the requirement is valid, then it must be supported. The rifle is the most basic weapon in the Army’s inventory.

Instead, the Army must navigate the middle path, carefully considering its near and long-tern requirements. The M16/M4 with its 5.56mm caliber have been in service for over 50 years. The next rifle may well be in service just as long. Or, until Phased Plasma Rifles in the 40-watt range, are available.


US Army 7.62 Rifle Update

Based on briefings conducted at the NDIA Armaments Conference by PEO Soldier’s PM Weapons team, along with discussions with industry, we have an update on Army plans to field a new 7.62 NATO capability within the next 24 months.

First off, although a contract has been awarded for H&K’s Compact Semi Automatic Sniper System, the weapon remains unfunded for FY17. Currently, type classification is planned for FY18.

However, the Army is also committed to concurrently fielding an SDMR based on the same platform as the CSASS.

According to briefing slides provided by PM Soldier Weapons, an Army directed requirement to engage enemy personnel at the Squad level from 0-600m, dated December, 2016 will purchase “6,069 HK G28E rifles” via an urgent material release.

The Army plans to use the existing M80A1 ammo for the SDMR, which is a 7.62 version of the 5.56mm M855A1. The rifles are said to be configured in a similar fashion to the CSASS, with Geissele M-Lok rail and OSS suppressor. However, the SDMRs will be outfitted with an as-of-yet still unselected 1-6x variable optic rather than the CSASS optic from Schmidt & Bender.

While there has been talk of adding up to two SDMRs per Squad, internal Army discussions continue about expanding the basis of issue of a 7.62 rifle, now referred to as the Interim Service Combat Rifle to all BCT members. However, there is still no formal requirement for the ISCR, and acquisition officials are leaning forward on the foxhole in anticipation, prepared to make this happen as quickly as possible.

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Olympic Arms Closing

Olympic Arms To Close It's Doors

Olympic Arms To Close It’s Doors

Olympic Arms To Close It’s Doors

The below statement is from Olympic arms. In my younger days I would always drool over their ads in the shotgun news. I wanted a Safari arms 1911 for the longest time.

After more than 40 years of business, it is with great sorrow that we announce that February 28th, 2017 will be the last day of operation for Olympic Arms, Inc.

The Schuetz family would like to express their heartfelt thanks to all their friends, associates, and partners that have been a part of the Olympic Arms experience. Most of all we would like to thank our loyal customers and patrons who have been with us all this time.

In the course of closing, we are announcing the following changes in policy effective immediately:

1.   All sales are final.
2.   No refunds or returns will be accepted after 1-25-2017.
3.   All Warranty service ceases 1-25-2017. Warranty work and repairs currently in-house will be serviced and returned.
4.   New orders will only be taken for inventory currently in stock, or that can be built from remaining inventory.
5.   All inventory will be liquidated.
6.   ALL SALES will cease at close of business 28 February, 2017

Thank you for your patronage.

Tom Spithaler
Sales Director
Olympic Arms, Inc.

 

Brownells Flash Sale $509 AR 15

Brownells has been running these flash sales. I hesitate to post them because their site isnt always updated with the flash sale price. This one finally is. If someone is looking to get in the AR15 game dirt cheap this might be the time to pull the trigger. Use this link or click the image below. Might also be able to get free shipping with code LY4. It’s worth trying.

Maybe they will offer up a 308 soon

 

Brownells Flash Sale

Brownells Flash Sale $509 DPMS Oracle

Answering Rifle Questions | No Response

Answering Rifle Questions | No Response from 308AR.com

Are We Still Answering Rifle Questions? YES!

A few months ago we moved to a new more powerful server. life was good, almost. Unknown to us at the time our new server was assigned an ip address once globally blacklisted as a spammer. As a result many of our replies to questions were returned as undelivered. This was quite frustrating because replies take time. It was a waste of valuable time.

Ask a Question About AR Rifles

Ask a Question About 308 AR | AR-10 Rifles

Typically when an ip address is flagged for spam there are mechanisms available to clear up the matter. We spent a lot of time trying to get our ip removed from all the blacklists. We were moderately successful. We were however never able to get everything cleared up. The most problematic email addresses were from Microsoft and the At&t family of email addresses. The result is half the population of shooters with free email accounts was not getting our replies. This outcome is very frustrating to put it mildly.

Today is a New Day and a New Server

Today November 17, 2016 I am pleased to report that this site as well as all of our others are on a brand new server. Our new server has better optimization for the software we run. The new server contains 4 cpu processors and 300gb SSD’s (solid state drives). More important than the specs though is our brand new server includes two new ip addresses.  The result will be a better user experience and equally important improved email. We are hopeful the emails will make it to their recipients.

 

Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy

Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy

Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy

Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy

Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy – Im the type of person that likes to plan ahead for everything whether in my personal life or at my day job. I also happen to live in the North East United States at whats often referred to as behind enemy lines. My home state was in the top 5 for most restrictive gun control in the nation. Lucky me. I knew too well though that despite our existing gun laws the liberal politicians would never be satisfied and would continue to chisel away at our legal rights to own guns and our natural right to protect ourselves. Because of this I decided I needed a “Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy

My Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy was not about specifically owning guns for a lifetime it was more about making sure with as much certainty as possible that I would be able to own the guns I wanted and have them as close to as designed as possible without mechanical limitations due to legal restrictions for a lifetime.

I determined that my Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy would consist of purchasing critical components over entire weapons. Buying complete weapons would be cost prohibitive. Below is a breakdown of what I decided to do.

AR15, AR-10 308AR Rifles

Understanding full well that the number one target of anti-gun politicians would be “Assault Rifles“.  It was clear that the first part I needed to purchase lower receivers which are the part that must be registered.

AR 15 Lower Receivers

Generic and Milspec was the way to go with AR15 LOWER RECEIVERS. CMMG and Spikes Tactical were what I stocked up on. They were readily available from Brownells which as a site supporter is a bonus.In both cases I also purchased the matching AR15 STRIPPED UPPER RECEIVERS. The reason I say stay with generic and milspec is simply for compatibility. These days AR15 manufacturers attempting to differentiate themselves from the competition are incorporating artistic variations on the platform. Nothing wrong with that until non standard AR15 parts are required to keep the gun working. Keep it simple and keep on shooting.

Today I would without hesitation purchase the AERO PRECISION AR15 hardware.

AR 15 Magazines

Naturally AR15  “HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES” are also targets of the anti-gun politicians.I would venture a guess and say 50 percent of my AR15 magazines consist of Brownells branded and Magpul PMAGS. Twenty Five Percent of my AR15 magazines are from D&H. I like the D&H, they work great and are reasonably priced. The remainder of my magazines are an assortment of no name GI magazines and Colt which I owned prior. Just as a sidebar HK (Heckler&Koch) have whats considered to be the best AR15 magazine ever produced. I own several and they function flawlessly and their quality of construction is exactly what you would expect from HK. The price is also what would be expected from HK.

AR15 Specialty Rifles

Consider that you might one day want pistol caliber AR15 rifles, SBR’s et cetera. Personally I built a 9mm AR15 and a .45acp AR15. The ..45 AR15 uses proprietary Olympic Arms magazines while the 9mm AR15 used standard Colt 9mm Carbine AR15 magazines. I made sure to have enough magazines.

Armalite AR-10

My only option was to purchase a complete AR-10 directly from Armalite. Already living in a ban state without a “grandfathered” AR-10 I ended up buying an Armalite AR-10 A4 10A4CF. Armalite does offer AR-10 STRIPPED LOWER RECEIVERS and under the previous ownership always tried to have some available for purchase. Today under new ownership I believe the AR-10 LOWER RECEIVERS are available when complete rifle production can spare them.

ARMALITE AR-10 MAGAZINES

My Armalite  AR-10 A4 10A4CF does not utilize and 3rd party magazines. If Armalite does not have stock drop us a line and I can share where Armalite sent me for AR-10 magazines during the shortage a couple years back.

308 AR RIFLE

308AR Lower Receiver

At the time the choices that exist today did not exist. For compatibility the safe 308AR LOWER RECEIVER purchases were DPMS, SI DEFENSE and FULTON ARMORY. Today I would still look towards FULTON ARMORY and I would also add MEGA ARMS and AERO PRECISION to the list. I would also suggest buying the 308AR receivers as a set. There are simply too many variations to chose any other path. In the future if your looking for additional 308AR upper receivers by all means do your homework and understand what exactly your lower is compatible with.

Note: There are a lot of great 308AR  rifles/receivers out there and Im not discounting any manufacturer. My line of thinking is what designs and styles are the most basic and common and should remain that way for years to come. We are not discussing building a complete rifle now. We are discussing pulling a 308AR receiver set from the safe in 10 years and building it up. Then possibly building additional uppers. By all means do what you want.

Other Semi-Automatic Rifles

Some semi-automatic rifle designs are not modular and interchangeable like AR15, AR-10 and 308AR rifles. This is an area where you should dig deep in to your wallet and purchase a complete rifle. In my case I purchased an FN FS2000 BULLPUP. In hindsight I wish I also purchased a FN PS90, BUSHMASTER ACR and a FN SCAR. If a rifle you desire requires proprietary magazines be sure to acquire them as well, particularly full capacity versions.

As a testament to my plan I purchased a couple M14 magazines and yet to acquire a rifle that can accept them

Bolt Action Rifles

My feeling with bolt action rifles is that they would be further down the anti-gun action list at a time when they decide nobody needs a “Sniper Rifle“. The exception being the newer “Modular Rifles” that often share some common features of an AR-10 and AR-15. These features are typically buttstocks and pistol grips which are two of the hot five buttons of anti-gun politicians. Currently I am devoting time to just such guns from Modular Driven Technologies (MDT) an MDT TAC21 and MDT HS3.

Note: Some jurisdictions might consider banning by caliber. Nobody needs a .50 Caliber, Nobody needs a “Magnum” anything. I can just hear it on the evening news.

Shotguns

Shotguns are probably the low point and last for the gun grabbers. However with that said today their are AR15 styled shotguns and most if not all are imported and can be blocked from entering the USA with the stroke of a pen. Personally for me shotguns never entered into my “Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy” .  I have a few and all are good to go.

Handguns

In my opinion handguns are pretty simple to plan on. The first and most important item would be handgun magazines for any pistol you think you might want to own. In my case I order a few variations of Glock, SIG SAUER, CZ, PARA USA and Browning HI Power magazines. In my opinion the biggest risk after magazine capacity would be imported handguns. Like mentioned above anything that can be banned with a stroke of the Presidents pen or without due process should be considered a priority.

 

Conclusion

Very few shooters are made of money and can just buy every gun they want to own in a short period. I suggest coming up with your Long Term Gun Ownership Strategy that works for you. To simplify what was stated above I recommend focusing on the registered part of the gun, magazines and rifles and handguns that can be banned without due process. Lastly do not forget ammunition. Watch for sales. Purchase a box or two of ammunition above what you would normally buy every time you visit the gun shop or Cabelas.

 

 

Armalite Launches “Get Some Ammo” Sales Promotion

Armalite Nexus Ammo www.308ar.com

Armalite Nexus Ammo

Armalite Launches “Get Some Ammo” Sales Promotion

 

(Geneseo, IL – Oct 7, 2015) For the fourth quarter of 2015, Armalite has partnered with its sister company, Nexus Ammo, to introduce the “Get Some Ammo” sales promotion.

 

For new Armalite firearms purchased from a dealer between October 1st and December 31st, 2015, your first shots are on us! M-15 purchases will receive 100 rounds of Nexus Ammo’s .223 Rem 77gr Match HPBT and AR-10 purchases will receive 80 rounds of .308 Win 175gr Match HPBT (approximate value of $110).

 

Nexus Ammo’s Match Grade line of ammunition is designed to exceed the expectations of the most discerning customers. Using top-quality components and proprietary loading methods, Nexus is able to achieve tolerances rarely seen even in hand-load applications, in our factory ammunition. The “Nexus Method” incorporates quality control requirements not present elsewhere in the industry, often resulting in single digit standard deviation. For information on Nexus Ammo’s Match Grade products, please visit www.nexusammo.com.

 

The “Get Some Ammo” promotion is available for a limited time. Please visit www.armalite.com for details and limitations.

 

About Armalite: Armalite is the originator of the legendary AR-10® rifle. For 60 years, Armalite’s commitment to excellence has made our firearms the choice of military, law enforcement and sport shooters worldwide. Armalite has one of the broadest product lines in the firearms industry. We manufacture semi-automatic rifles in 5.56mm and 7.62mm calibers, as well as long range bolt action rifles in .308 Winchester, 300 Winchester Magnum, .338 Lapua, and 50 BMG. Armalite is a subsidiary of Strategic Armory Corps.

 

About Nexus Ammo: Nexus Ammo provides discerning shooters high impact solutions through unparalleled, patent-pending automation processes. The “Nexus Method” meticulously produces ammunition to exact tolerances equal to the attention of hand loading. Our unique machinery and automation allows us to build ammunition to exact specifications, starting with the raw materials. This method is proven to provide a consistency in weight in every cartridge, delivering the quality and ballistic performance you can rely upon.

 

You can depend on Nexus Ammo to deliver a full ballistic spectrum of ammunition performance for your tactical, defense, or hunting needs. When you require consistency, accuracy, and repeatability… Nexus is your solution.

 

About Strategic Armory Corps: Strategic Armory Corps was formed with the goal of acquiring and combining market-leading companies within the firearms industry. Each company that is brought into the SAC family fulfills a consumer need with their brand of niche products. To date, four highly respected manufacturing companies have been acquired with a fifth in the start-up phase. These companies strategically fit together to form a strong base of products and services that are designed to meet the expectations of military, law enforcement, commercial groups, and individual users around the world

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